Rush Limbaugh’s Brillant Idea On Health Care–A Firing Line Debate Between–Barach Obama, Harry Reid, and Nancy Pelosi Vs. Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin and Paul Ryan–Take The Presidential Challenge!

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I was listening to Rush when he was talking about President Obama’s proposed  meeting with both the Republicans and Democrats about their  ideas for health care reform.

Given the way both President Obama and the progressive radical socialist Democrats froze out all Republican ideas when they were drafting their health care bills, I would tell the President to first show the American people online  your proposed health care plan and bill .

Only then should the Republicans even consider having a meeting on health care reform that is televised with President Obama.

Rush suggested that instead of a meeting, lets have a debate similiar to those on Bill Buckley’s Firing Line with a moderator and three people for each side of an issue. For example one of the most famous debates on Firing Line was on the Panama Canal treaty where then Governor Ronald Reagan and Bill Buckley were on opposing sides of the issue.

William F Buckley Jr Panama Closing Speech


While I am a regular listener of both Rush and Mark, I would have a Republican Senator instead of Mark Levin.

My suggestion is Senator Tom Coburn of Oklahoma replace Mark Levin as part of the Republian A team. 


The Republican A Team

Rush Limbaugh On the Record – Part 5 of 8 – First Night

John Barrasso and Tom Coburn Discuss Health Savings Accounts and Small Group Health Plans

Paul Ryan explains problems with public plan

A confident and competent leader would  accept  the challenge.

An arrogant and mendacious  reader would reject the  challenge.

Mr. President, put up or shut up.

Mr. President–Put Up or Shut Up–Put Online Your Health Care Plan and Bill For the American People To Review–Otherwise–No Meeting


Can you say wipeout!

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Background Articles and Videos

Firing Line- William Buckley Jr. and Malcolm Muggeridge

Rush Limbaugh’s Letter to President Obama

Rush Limbaugh

Tom Coburn



Tom Coburn

“…Tom A. Coburn, M.D. was elected to the U.S. Senate on November 2, 2004. Dr. Coburn and his wife, Carolyn, a former Miss Oklahoma, were married in 1968 and have three children and five grandchildren. They are members of Muskogee’s New Community Church.

Dr. Coburn’s priorities in the Senate include reducing wasteful spending, protecting your liberty, balancing the budget, improving health care access and affordability, protecting the sanctity of all human life – including the unborn – and representing traditional, Oklahoma values. As a citizen legislator, Dr. Coburn has pledged to serve no more than two terms in the Senate and to continue to care for patients. He is a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, Intelligence Committee, the Indian Affairs Committee and the Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions.

As a senator, Dr. Coburn has offered more amendments than any of his colleagues. He has offered amendments to eliminate funding for the “Bridge to Nowhere,” the “Woodstock Museum” in New York and countless other special interests earmarks sponsored by members of both parties. Dr. Coburn has also worked to make government more accountable and transparent. In 2006, he teamed up with then-Senator Barack Obama to create, an online database of all federal spending. Click here to view many more of his accomplishments in the Senate.

Prior to his election to the Senate, Dr. Coburn represented Oklahoma’s Second Congressional District in the House of Representatives from 1995 through 2001. He was first elected in 1994, then re-elected in 1996 and 1998, becoming the first Republican to hold the seat for consecutive terms. Dr. Coburn retired from Congress in 2001, fulfilling his pledge to serve no more than three terms in the House.

In 1970, Dr. Coburn graduated with an accounting degree from Oklahoma State University. One of the Top Ten seniors in the School of Business, Dr. Coburn served as president of the College of Business Student Council.
From 1970 to 1978, Dr. Coburn served as manufacturing manager at the Ophthalmic Division of Coburn Optical Industries in Colonial Heights, Virginia. Under his leadership, the Virginia division of Coburn Optical grew from 13 employees to more than 350 and captured 35 percent of the U.S. market.

After the family business was sold, Dr. Coburn changed the course of his life by returning to school to become a physician. Again he emerged as a leader, becoming president of his class at the University of Oklahoma Medical School where he graduated in 1983. He then did his internship in general surgery at St. Anthony’s Hospital in Oklahoma City and family practice residency at the University of Arkansas, Fort Smith.

Dr. Coburn returned to Muskogee where he specializes in family medicine, obstetrics and the treatment of allergies. Dr. Coburn has personally delivered more than 4,000 babies.

Dr. Coburn also is a two-time cancer survivor.”

UPFRONT with Mike Gousha, Feb. 7, 2010 – Rep. Paul Ryan Wants Govenment To Start Working

Paul Ryan

“…As a fifth-generation Janesville native, Paul Ryan is committed to carrying forth Wisconsin’s proud tradition of hard-working, reform-minded leadership to Congress.  Since first elected in 1998, Paul has fought with integrity and passion on behalf of those he serves in Wisconsin’s First Congressional District.   Serving as Ranking Member of the House Budget Committee, Paul is a leading voice for fiscal discipline and accountability in the federal government.  He is also a member of the House Ways and Means Committee, where he has focused his efforts on making health care more affordable and more accessible, reducing the complexity and burdens of our federal tax code, and strengthening American jobs and competitiveness.  He has recently introduced “A Roadmap for America’s Future,” a comprehensive proposal that tackles the interrelated crises in health care, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, our outdated tax code, and our exploding debt.   Prior to his election to Congress, Paul worked at Ryan Inc., Central – a construction firm that was founded by Ryan’s great-grandfather in 1884.  Paul also gained experience in public service, serving as an aide, economic advisor, and speechwriter for various public officials in our nation’s capital.   Paul currently resides blocks from his childhood home in Janesville, his church – St. John Vianney’s Parish, and his alma mater – Joseph A. Craig High School.  He also earned a degree in economics and political science from Miami University in Ohio.  Paul and his wife Janna are the proud parents of three children – Liza, Charlie and Sam.  The youngest of four children, Paul is the son of Paul Sr. (deceased) and Betty Ryan.”

“…Fox News has obtained a letter penned by House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) and Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-VA) addressed to White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. 

In the letter, they question the president’s true commitment to Bipartisanship and implore the White House to conduct all talks in public. In addition, they also ask the president to take the reconciliation process off the table.

Here is the letter:

February 8, 2010
The Honorable Rahm Emanuel
Chief of Staff
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500
Dear Mr. Emanuel:

We welcome President Obama’s announcement of forthcoming bipartisan health care talks. In fact, you may remember that last May, Republicans asked President Obama to hold bipartisan discussions on health care in an attempt to find common ground on health care, but he declined and instead chose to work with only Democrats. Since then, the President has given dozens of speeches on health care reform, operating under the premise that the more the American people learn about his plan, the more they will come to like it. Just the opposite has occurred: a majority of Americans oppose the House and Senate health care bills and want them scrapped so we can start over with a step-by-step approach focused on lowering costs for families and small businesses.

Just as important, scrapping the House and Senate health care bills would help end the uncertainty they are creating for workers and businesses and thus strengthen our shared commitment to focusing on creating jobs. Assuming the President is sincere about moving forward on health care in a bipartisan way, does that mean he will agree to start over so that we can develop a bill that is truly worthy of the support and confidence of the American people?

Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said today that the President is “absolutely not” resetting the legislative process for health care. If the starting point for this meeting is the job-killing bills the American people have already soundly rejected, Republicans would rightly be reluctant to participate.Assuming the President is sincere about moving forward in a bipartisan way, does that mean he has taken off the table the idea of relying solely on Democratic votes and jamming through health care reform by way of reconciliation? As the President has noted recently, Democrats continue to hold large majorities in the House and Senate, which means they can attempt to pass a health care bill at any time through the reconciliation process.

Eliminating the possibility of reconciliation would represent an important show of good faith to Republicans and the American people.If the President intends to present any kind of legislative proposal at this discussion, will he make it available to members of Congress and the American people at least 72 hours beforehand? Our ability to move forward in a bipartisan way through this discussion rests on openness and transparency. Will the President include in this discussion congressional Democrats who have opposed the House and Senate health care bills? This bipartisan discussion should reflect the bipartisan opposition to both the House bill and the kickbacks and sweetheart deals in the Senate bill.Will the President be inviting officials and lawmakers from the states to participate in this discussion?

As you may know, legislation has been introduced in at least 36 state legislatures, similar to the proposal just passed by the Democratic-controlled Virginia State Senate, providing that no individual may be compelled to purchase health insurance. Additionally, governors of both parties have raised concerns about the additional costs that will be passed along to states under both the House and Senate bills. The President has also mentioned his commitment to have “experts” participate in health care discussions. Will the Feb. 25 discussion involve such “experts?” Will those experts include the actuaries at the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), who have determined that the both the House and Senate health care bill raise costs – just the opposite of their intended effect – and jeopardize seniors’ access to high-quality care by imposing massive Medicare cuts? Will those experts include the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office, which has stated that the GOP alternative would reduce premiums by up to 10 percent? Also, will Republicans be permitted to invite health care experts to participate?

Finally, as you know, this is the first televised White House health care meeting involving the President since last March. Many health care meetings of the closed-door variety have been held at the White House since then, including one where a sweetheart deal was worked out with union leaders. Will the special interest groups that the Obama Administration has cut deals with be included in this televised discussion?Of course, Americans have been dismayed by the fact that the President has broken his own pledge to hold televised health care talks. We can only hope this televised discussion is the beginning, not the end, of attempting to correct that mistake. Will the President require that any and all future health care discussions, including those held on Capitol Hill, meet this common-sense standard of transparency and openness?Your answers to these critical questions will help determine whether this will be a truly open, bipartisan discussion or merely an intramural exercise before Democrats attempt to jam through a job-killing health care bill that the American people can’t afford and don’t support. ‘Bipartisanship’ is not writing proposals of your own behind closed doors, then unveiling them and demanding Republican support. Bipartisan ends require bipartisan means.

These questions are also designed to try and make sense of the widening gap between the President’s rhetoric on bipartisanship and the reality. We cannot help but notice that each of the President’s recent bipartisan overtures has been coupled with harsh, misleading partisan attacks. For instance, the President decries Republican ‘obstruction’ when it was Republicans who first proposed bipartisan health care talks last May. The President says Republicans are ‘sitting on the sidelines’ just days after holding up our health care alternative and reading from it word for word. The President has every right to use his bully pulpit as he sees fit, but this is the kind of credibility gap that has the American people so fed up with business as usual in Washington.We look forward to receiving your answers and continuing to discuss ways we can move forward in a bipartisan manner to address the challenges facing the American people.

 Fox News’ Chad Pergram contributed to this report.  …”

Fox News – William F Buckley – Right From The Start

Fox News – William F Buckley – Right From The Start

Fox News – William F Buckley – Right From The Start

Fox News – William F Buckley – Right From The Start

Fox News – William F Buckley – Right From The Start

Fox News – William F Buckley – Right From The Start

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